I can’t possible reply each and every one of the 100 over comments, so i’m writing it here.
For those who went on a comment rage before you even finish the post (or have the mental capacity to even read a blog post properly), it is fine. If you walk out half way through a movie, the movie probably sucks so much that you cannot continue. Director’s fault. But to go on and tell everyone how shitty you think the ending is just makes you sound silly.
Also there is no need to repeat quoting me to tell me what i already told myself. It makes me think you sound very stupid.
Out of all the comments, two things i want to elaborate here.
1. Japan has never apologized for the atrocities it has committed during WWII.
I don’t understand how so many people can come to such a conclusion that Japan has NEVER made a single apology in the past 70 years. Really? Is that really what you think?
Japan did.
Not once. But repeatedly, since 1950 , and almost every single year to various countries it has committed war crimes to, until today, 2013.
That is 60 years of constant apology. Youngs who has absolutely nothing to do with the war crime continue to apologize on behalf of their ancestors.
Apologies are made. Whether these countries (China and Korea) deem the apologies acceptable and satisfactory or not, it is not the issue here. Everybody likes to argue about semantics. They can say that the apologies are insincere. But do they have the sincerity to accept an apology to begin with? Also, nobody should judge if an apology is sincere enough except the the one who is apologizing and the one who is apologized to.
In 1998, Japanese PM Keizo Obuchi apologized to South Korean president Kim Dae Jung for the occupation of Korean Peninsular. Both parties declared the matter settled. It has come to an end. Why does Korea still demand an apology years after years?
The Japanese atrocities cannot be used as a bargaining chip over and over again, just because China thinks that their apologies are “not valid” and reject them on purpose to their own benefits. That is extortion.
About compensation, Japan has contributed trillion of yen (although in the form of ODA) to China and Korea. I cannot even comprehend such a large figure of number but i’m sure it is enough to build a few small countries from scratch.
What other things can Japan do now to settle its history debt other than apologies and financial aids? You cannot take innocent people’s lives to make up for lost souls in this modern society.
It was wrong for Japan to have excluded some of the events from Japanese history books, but who are we to say the history book we are all studying now reflect 100% truth? Political views are forever distorted, and similarly, textbooks in China and Korea are massively biased to preserve anti-Japanese sentiments in order to keep their nationalism up.
There are too much to argue and too many cans of worms opened when you dig history up and it will be an endless debate. It was my bad to have brought it up in my previous entry and i deserve every single comments, good or bad.
I am not making myself sound like i know how to solve this whole political conundrum, so neither should you.
2. You cannot possibly understand how it feels or what the Korean anti-Japan sentiments stem from unless you existed 70+ years ago and saw Japan colonize and break all sorts of human rights laws in China and Korea.
So i assume you are over 100 years old by now typing on your computer in reply to the atrocities written on a pink blog?
If that is the case i will delete the previous blog post and apologize sincerely for all i have written.
None of us here, including you, me, was involved in what happened in the past.
My grandmother was from China, whose family probably experienced war time aggressions.
My husband was born in Nagasaki. His dad is a nuclear bomb victim, who has a license that allows him free access to public transport and medical care in Japan. He was 7 years old when the US dropped an atomic bomb on his home land. He survived because his school was somewhere hidden between the valleys, but one of his brothers was killed in the bombing.
He is my father in law, and he is 75 years old. I have only met him twice, one as a a visit to be officially introduced, another time on our wedding day. He is a silent, fragile man and we hardly even exchanged words. But every time i see him, my heart was filled with respect, admiration and love, for he taught his family peace, duty and honesty. He has never once talked about the bomb incident, nor incite hatred towards the Americans. His sons were not brought up to resent, partly because they knew that they were wrong in the past, and mostly because of a big heart.
That is how i fell in love with his son, one of the most honest, humble person with the purest heart i have ever met. And he is now my husband.
And Nagasaki is one of the most beautiful and peaceful places i have ever seen. When i visited the Hypocenter, all i felt was love from people from all over the world, in the shape of colorful paper cranes. There wasn’t a single ounce of resentment felt. I thought i would one day live there.
The only point i am trying to make here today, is that the Japanese are not taught to hate. No kids should be taught hatred. Including kids in China and Korea. I have admitted how wrong, petty and childish i was, because my husband taught me so. And i learned.
And again, i wish the world to have a bigger heart, including myself. And with that i end my post.
Don’t delete your other post! You’re right, what happened in history did happen, but people who repeatedly drag it up and shout “ri ben gui zi!” are just looking for reason to be mad. Perhaps there is no correcting the hatred in hearts of seniors that experienced it, but it is just trivial, petty and stupid for the younger generation to hate. The sins of some evil people during a difficult time does not equal an evil nation. Both of your posts are intelligent and well-thought out. Thank you.
Cheesie, when I read your last post nearly until the end, I was a bit distraught at what I ‘thought’ you were going to put across – but the ending paragraphs touched my heart so much, it made me smile, you are truly a very beautiful soul. I appreciate you writing that even though you knew how people might react. You are fantastic and don’t let anybody tell you otherwise, because you live to the truth in yourself! I love your blog, and you.
Dear Cheesie, let me be straight here although everything is going to be very hard to hear. I, too, dislike the fact that almost everyone in this world is into the K culture but people have the rights to like what they want. You don’t judge each other just because the other person dislike what you like, you just shouldn’t because people are born to like the things that intrigues them. I sincerely hope that you can stop blogging about your love for Japan, it drives people away, and it’s ANNOYING.
You are one sweet, sweet girl. This is an amazing, very well put together post. Great job! And it is definitely something that I can’t agree enough. Keep your head up, girl! =)
Will you accept the fact that you are a freaking Chinese and not pretending to be a Japanese, that’s not right. If you say that Japanese HAVE been apologising, then what’s the point they create a world war and breaks off the peacefulness? I don’t understand why are you always talking about how good Japan is, forget about it NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT ALL THE FUCKING FACTS. Get a life and JUST SHOW how much you really love Japan, don’t just type it out. Everyone now hates you blog, please bitch.
well said 🙂 if people don’t like what you write, they should stop reading your blog x
If only someone in your family tree was dead because of the stupid war Japanese created, you today will definitely not talk about how good Japan is. Now the thing is that there are people out there who love Japan, and a lot who still bear grudges over their act in the war. You know what, by typing out such posts you are creating a space for people to argue, つまり、you are creating a war similarly to the Japanese.
Actually ad, I am quite sure someone in my family was dead because of the stupid war the Japanese created.
i’m a non kpop fan from Czech.R. first how can you stop people into k-pop stuffs while YOU are the annoying ones who post almost every single thing in your life related to japan. i was once your loyal fan readers but i found out that in instagram/twitter/facebook if there is people who comment in Japanese and you replied all of them, while others you don’t. since when you became SO racist? your husband was japanese, your every single dinner is japanese food, your SO CALLED SECOND HOME is japan.
Japanese are not taught to hate because they are the one who are in the wrong. Get things right before stating out any dumb facts.
After reading the comments on your other post, people got very offended about your views.(me included) So please don’t throw politics and pop/culture in one pot again. Even if it’s hard to cut a line, there is a diffrence between them. I will continue to read everything related to gyaru you post in the future, because i like your blog and i’m really happy for all of your surcess in japan.<3. I’m Chinese myself living in germany and i learned the hard way not to mix these kind of things together.
JAPAN JAPAN JAPAN. I know japan is good, but you can’t act like you are raised and born from there, a part of family of japan, a lucky girl who started foruchizu and somewhat so stupidly got popular in japan fashion and collaborate with EMODA. I doubt you love your husband.. because i think the prior condition in finding husband for yourself is you want him to be a PURE JAPANESE. tsk tsk tsk, naive middle-aged woman
I said exactly that two paragraphs above. Get your eyes checked before you leave such a dumb comment.
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
I’ve been following your blog for ages and there are always these occasional posts that you reflect on yourself/life in general that make me feel like I’ve learnt something from you, or grown with you.It takes a lot to put such personal thoughts out on the internet where they will be subject to comment and criticism, especially for a well known blogger like yourself. It isn’t everyday where you come across a pink blog that makes you want to have a bigger heart. Respect +1 🙂
Cheesie, i’m a malaysian (: i understand your passion and feelings towards Japan. you inspired me ALOT in everything! i started update your blog since ages! and, despite those ugly comments above, I hope you stay strong and continue chasing for your dreams in Japan!! and until today, which country ranked in the most polite country through worldwide? JAPAN FTW <3
reading most of the comments here makes me want to faint. -_________- while i may not have agreed with all her points in her last post, her intention was to say that she REALIZED that she was wrong. and i’m glad that she published this post to clarify, and for whatever your thoughts are, she does have facts to back her up this time. and lastly she is admitting to wanting to be a better person.
Also Japanese people never made a effort to break into international music industry. The main reason would be Johnny Kitagawa (or one of the main reasons ), who decided to ban all of Johnny related stuff on youtube and other big music companys followed him. And we all know that youtube is the main reason, (+ a trying-hard colourful image) where kpop and culture is right now. So basically, i blame kitagawa, because japanese popculture could’ve be more popular overseas.
most of the commenters here now sound nuts cos they’re not even refuting her points but ranting on crazy tangents. your points are all irrelevant and petty! you all did yourselves a big favor now everyone can see what’s going on in your brain – nothing.
Hello, this is an interesting discussion, can’t help sharing my 2-cent. Apology if I’m going to offend anyone. Everyone is entitled to one’s opinion but it’s also important that we approach something with an open mind. There is really no need for hatred and anger because at the end of the day, these aren’t going to do us any good. I think she’s trying to stress that we should live with a ‘big heart’ instead of being angry and bitter. We can’t change the past but we can build a better tomorrow!
although my grandma’s grandparents were shot dead by the Japanese in Indonesia before, i don’t hate Japan at all. i mean its all in the PAST! all of us must let the past go and look forward to the future. without these, we will become evil without realising. although CHINA and KOREA still cannot accept Japan’s APOLOGY, one day for sure the world will see who is the read devil : )
My husband’s Japanese, grandparents lived through Japanese Occupation. They get along real fine as they know they can’t change the past, hatred and resentment ain’t going to make things better. History is a reminder for humankind not to commit the same wrong again. Just wanna share this n n”The parents of a Palestinian boy killed by Israeli soldiers in the West Bank have donated his organs for use in Israel, in the hope of promoting peace.”http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4417354.stmnn
I would be very embarrassed to publicly admit that I take time to read a blog I hate wtf. I am an American who has known that I wanted to live or work overseas for a long time. After years of trying to decide where would be best I decided on Japan. I know that it will be hard, being foreign and white, but you have been one of many sources of inspiration for me and when I see how much other foreigners love Japan I know the hard work will be worth it. Plus the US is the real king of war crimes -_-
It really isn’t easy, most of my white friends in Japan would testify. Some gave up. But even if it is a short time, the experience is worth everything. I said it many times but visiting Japan the first time changed my life. O learn things i can value for a life time. Good luck Kim!
Did you read the link you posted? If you did, then you wouldn’t wonder why they still deem that Japan has never apologised for their war crimes. nnYup, you shouldn’t have mixed politics into your blog. What more commented about it in such a flippant manner. And yet you say you have learned? Guess your husband has a lot more to teach you.
Everything was well-put until you said your main point is that Japan is not taught to hate? Really? You speak for the entire nation? NOBODY is taught to hate in Japan? So, every other nation is taught to hate? Unfortunately, every country has people taught to hate. And you can’t say “not the majority of people”. You can’t possibly know that. You shouldn’t have ended with that statement being your main point…
I have talked to some people from the entertainment / broadcast industry (NHK, TBS), you are right. It is a pity they never made it more internationally available with all their silly policies. they are well aware of it now but still not something they could control, unfortunately.
Thank you 🙂
Oh and people should stop hating on your husband. I think that’s extremely disrespectful and mean. Also, it’s fine that you stated your opinions (it’s your blog afterall). But unless you’re prepared for the bombardement of people who are more knowledgeable than you on a particular subject, you really shouldn’t post politics on a fashion/travel blog.
Ok ok so you are now Cheesie with “The BIGGERER heart” by putting up a follow up post with facts. You wrote: “every time i see him, my heart was filled with respect, admiration and love, for he taught his family peace, duty and honesty. He has never once talked about the bomb incident, nor incite hatred towards the American.” Then why did you bring this up as blog post material when you are aware that it’ll stir animosity?
There should be a plastic surgery for heart enlargement lulz
I’m drawn to respond to this post out of sheer indignation that a whole bunch of people chose to ignore the bigger picture you are trying to paint and instead pick on the bits that are non-PC and insulting to some people. However, they do have to realise that that was one emotional stream of consciousness about something that you care about. A pity that they didn’t read till the end. Please do not delete the previous post. Perhaps, they’ll return and realise their silliness.
But dear dear Cheesie, I have to say that it takes two hands to clap. You do feel for Japan, but do try to empathise for the other parties too. I believe that the source of the problem goes beyond WW2, but yes, I do agree that they should do away with unnecessary hatred on all sides. It is pointless in the long run. While I do appreciate your thoughts, perhaps it is best not to voice out on this platform. :/
Bias and passion can sometimes very slowly and gently become veils that covers your eyes. Be careful.
=( =( =( why so much hate wan everybody. and those that keep repeating do you remember where you are from or what race cheesie is… its not like she insulted malaysia or something to that extent also. just chillex wei. go spread some love instead. haha.
I am a 23 year old German girl and therefore certainly did not participate in WW2. Until today there a lots of (European) people calling Germans nazis etc. It’s a shame that we have to bare even 70 years later. I agree with you that we (the young folks) should not be in any way made responsible for what happened in the past but it is the history of my country and we all should never forget how horrible humans can be.
I am a 23 year old German girl and therefore certainly did not participate in WW2. Until today there a lots of (European) people calling Germans nazis etc. It’s a shame that we have to bare even 70 years later. I agree with you that we (the young folks) should not be in any way made responsible for what happened in the past but it is the history of my country and we all should never forget how horrible humans can be.
Other than that I think it’s horrible to use this argument for political decisions TODAY. My post might be confusing but I just wanted to say that it is NOT true that Germans dson’t have to deal with consequences because of WW2. And right now there is a huge financial crisis in Europe and Germany IS the country paying the most in order to save the European Union (ok, that’s a different story 😉 ) Anyway, still love your blog!
Thanks for 2 well written post cheesie! I personally may not love Japan as much as you do, but I don’t love Korea as much as other ppl do too. Some may only love Korea now and dying to go Korea just cause of K-Pop and what not, so who are they to judge you and condemn you? Now I hear everyone saying they’d love to go Korea, but when I went 10 years ago, not as many people wanted to go back then. nnI respect your love for Japan, and I agree 🙂 I’m dying to go to Japan 1 day too!!
As a Malaysian Chinese I I love Japan too. Most Malaysian Chinese do too once they visit Japan. The older generation however tends to be much harder of heart toward Japan.
It really doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right in the past. Whatever Japan has down during WW2, it has happened and true enough you can’t do anything else. I agree that Japan has done what it could do as a country, as a nation to others as compensation. It’s been a good 6 decades, and for them to not be forgiven, it’s only asking for more than what they should be given. Humans indeed, are greedy. So you shouldn’t feel bad. Others do not have rights to violate your freedom of expression.
If others are saying that Japan had oppressed human rights during WW2, and been leaving nasty comments and judging you, and saying that you are a Japanese wannabe, and saying you know nothing just cause you’re not a 100+ year old, unlike “them”, then they are just oppressing your freedom of expression now, and that includes your rights as a human. So you indeed have a bigger heart than them. True enough, history is bound to repeat if you do not learn from the past. Some just don’t learn.
Relax. There are many things that are beyond our control. One of it is ugly politics.nnWhen Nazi was swept of power, all the war mongers were removed from power. However, in the case of Japan, many of them slipped right back in. One reason is that the USA needed to rebuild Japan fast to counter communism. Been to Yasukuni Shrine? It gives others the perfect ammunition to stir hatred in their domestic politics.nnSit tight. With the US trying to contain China using Japan, it’s going to get worse.
I know you love Japan very much and you are angry because China and Korea still blaming Japan although it has passed quite a long time. But I felt like you shouldn’t hate on K-pop or their culture just because their politics kinda sucks lol . It’s two different things. Japan teens who love Korea it’s like you as Malaysian love Japan! 🙂 It’s not a bad thing actually. So don’t get mad at ppl who love Kpop because of some stupid politics prob k! 🙂 xoxo to u cheesie!
I think this is getting blown out of proportion.There are more than one argument here.I appreciate your last post about having a bigger heart because in all honesty, everybody is entitled to their own tastes; I am in loved with K music and that industry but Japan would always be my fav destination.japan’s culture is divine.This second post you wrote, is all about politics, which clearly opens up a new can of worms.We have no right to argue politics &history based on things we barely understand
If you were brought up by Chinese parents growing up, you should have heard “Ri ben gui zi” before. Our generation will never understand the atrocities of the previous wars, but I think you realize how much inherited hatred still exists. The Japanese people of this generation, and their followers, want to move on because they were clearly in the wrong during WWII. But Japan is not the same as Germany. Germany’s strategic geographic position in Europe allowed the world to forgive them–cont.n
and then the Cold War happened with Russia = Britain + France wanted some barrier against Communist Russia who they viewed as the real threat. Germany being white probably helped too. And that is why most countries have chosen to “forgive” Germany. n(sorry being boring, one of my majors in college was history)nWhat about Chinese culture? Most of the older generations in China would consider you some sort of traitor I think…
I think this is one of those occurrence when you’ve come to love something so much you only see the good in it. Or mostly the good.
My grandmother grew up during Japan’s occupation of Korea. The stories I have heard from her, although rarely spoken of, are truly heartbreaking. However, my grandmother holds no hatred in her heart for the Japanese. I’m sure she may have, when she was younger, but my cousins (her other grandchildren) are half Korean, half Japanese. Obviously, she loves them immensely. My ex is also half/half. Point is, hatred isn’t in all hearts. There’ll always be hate, but you can choose to see love. 🙂
Well, I really agree with the point that the one who started the war was their ancestors. WHICH actually cause their young’s who are not involved to be hated and blamed..History can’t be changed, why hold on a grudge? God. Why should your be so 小心眼? I’m sure one of my relative did died too. Forgive and never forget, but keep it as a lesson learnt, a memory.. If not, this hatred cycle thing would never end. PLEASE THINK! and despite that, didn’t everyone ended up losing someone they love de
Here is what I learned in my college about Japan during WWII: During the Nanjing Massacre, things were so bad that a German SS Officer was trying to stop the atrocities. And Korean comfort were brought in, lured with promises of good jobs. They were raped 20 times a day even when preggies.nnCitizens apologized but their gov never did formally or did reparations. And there are still historians who say that the Massacre was a fabrication to make Japan look bad.nnSo it is a really sore subject
I understand why people are angry over your post, you mixed politics with pop culture and the two things have nothing in common. Koreans do not insult Japan in their songs, so I don’t get your passive aggressive hatred towards Korean pop culture. Also, before you talk about politics & history, make sure you get everything accurate. Finally, Japan paid that money because they were forced to pay reparations as they were on the loosing side.
But I’m really glad you clarified. I know you love Japan but I do wish that you could be more in touch with your Chinese roots. I heard as a whole, the Japanese welcome tourists but if you live there as a foreigner, you’re asking to be ostracized. I’m a Chinese person living in the US so politically, I was taught from many perspectives of WWII. You are right, we need to forgive though forgetting is something that should never be done. Your hubby is a good guy. 🙂
I understand the feeling of resentment that some Chinese feel towards the Japanese. I personally feel like it’ll take more than the next 100 years to change how they feel in regards to Japan. But from what I know, many people including my family and friends are captivated by the Japanese culture. Cheesie, I only wish you wouldn’t generalize China as a whole. The bad are the ones speaking out loud. There’s a lot of people in China who like the Japanese. I sincerely hope these rude comments stop.
But with the bombing, which I don’t think was right, Japan kinda asked for it. Their gov attacked the US, which was determined to stay out of the war, and try to colonize. And they got a ton of warnings to stop fighting but the gov didn’t listen so the bomb was dropped. It took another bomb before the gov got the message. So I think rather than hating the US, your danna’s dad would rather dislike his own gov.
Hi Cheesie, these two posts made me like you and Japan even more :DnThese comments are horrible, these people didn’t even read everything you said and they come here and say bullshit. The China/Korea issue is like the Soviet Union, but unlike Japan I don’t remember Russia apologizing to anyone(let alone any money), so these stupid Chinese/Korean teens should shut up, we in Estonia (and others) have had a lot worse time and for some reason some Russians still hate US, tho we didnt do anything.
It’s clear that you really love Japan, but please do more research, outside of WWII. From only what I’ve read a lot of the animosity has to do with the issue of:n1. “Comfort women” (South Korea/China both, as well as Taiwan and other countries)- these countries say forced/Japan sometimes says recruited/ Abe Shinzo says “never happened” (although Japan has apologized).n2. The Nanjing Massacre: there has been an apology from a prime minister/the Emperor, but there’s also denial (a mayor of Tokyo).
Sorry, I’m commenting again as there was too little space. I should mention that I think Japan is probably a wonderful country, but I don’t think anyone should “put it on a pedestal.” It has its own major societal problems and people should know that it isn’t perfect. And to all those who are saying “the past is the past,” please remember that the past always affects the future. For example, if Japan hadn’t lost during WWII, would it still be a warlike monarchy? Sorry for oversimplifying things.
I love a passionate post but this makes me a little uncomfortable. I’m half Chinese, grew up loving Japanese culture and is loving Kpop more now. Can you imagine how much hate I had to go though? I wish this 3 way hate relationship to be solved. Nasib saya Malaysian, not need to choose side.
haiyo peace ppl, she aready put disclaimer and apologized in advance and ask u to leave, so if u still get offended, it is sort of YOUR own fault right??!!! cheesie i love your blog and especially on sentiment post, it let me think and review about myself about the message u trying to deliver. just ignore those easily get offended ppl. love u cheesieeeeeeee
I really hate people criticizing each other because of a country they like or hate. Its strange to me that a blogger is getting hate comments for blogging about Japan. If a famous blogger blogged many times about how much they love Hollywood movies, should they get hate comments for liking a country that slaved dark skinned people for years and years? Liking a certain country doesn’t mean they are justifying every bad thing that country has done.
i understand you are fond of Japan but please don’t stand up fir them when the rest of the world because people will lash out. im Korean and 80% of my mother family line living at that time got murdered raped tortured or kidnapped for human trafficking. im 100% surn if Same thing happened to you you wouldn’t see Japan the same way. i have Japanese friends and they told me the reason for the nuclear bomb was because the leader didn’t think about their people until after it was dropped. they had m
continued … the had many warning from usa but still continued what they were doing
Well back in 2009 or so, you made a post discriminating ugly people and how they should date and have babies with only ugly people which was totally senseless and immature. Why haven’t you learnt your lesson? Then you came up with a follow up post basically apologizing to offended people(whom you assumed were probably ugly to get offended) in the most insincere way. Aren’t you like repeating history on your own blog?
You should just make a proper post to sincerely apologize on your senseless behaviour. But I guess your ego gets the best of you and you just couldn’t and wouldn’t do so, instead you’re just making things worse with follow-up post(s). People will know how genuine your posts are okay. We ain’t stupid.
Hi, I’ll admit I didn’t finish reading your post. I’m just going to share my two cents with those who said we should forget the past. My grandaunt was raped by Japanese, gave birth, and out of shame she ran away from home and we never heard from her since. For direct victims and those who are emotionally close to them, pls don’t blatantly state that they should forget the past. If someone slapped me (let alone raped *choi choi choi touch wood*) n said sorry, I wouldn’t forget that person either.
uno wat? u will be 29 or something this year. ud better stop being an immature girl with a big ego. u owe an apology to those victims or else you you will lose many readers. read the comments people are saying they will no longer read urn blog. and if u honestly think u can get away with saying something like this with no sincere apology u deserve it
On some things I don’t agree with you but I don’t want you to delete any of your posts because its you being honest and genuine. I took more time to understand you in the things you think and care a lot about. It’s a controversy I as a Japanese mixed American tries not to think about because of the loss and sadness in war times. I try to look forward to the future and make it bright for everyone around me leading by good example. 🙂
Hey Cheesie, interesting post! The apologies by Japan help settle the pain suffered by their victims in WWII, but when they downplay the Nanjing Massacre in their history books for example, the pain is reignited. That is why people think its insincere- apologising publicly but downplaying it when teaching their younger generation? I think that is why some countries don’t think the apologies are enough.
Actually there’s still a lot of denial about what happened in Nanjing. However I understand that you’re biased and feel like it’s no big deal;it happened so long ago. But look at it this way,no one denies the holocaust.No one tells Jewish families to “get over it”. People have even been charged with hate speech for speaking against it. All I’m saying is you have conflicting principles. You want people to stop hating on Japan while you hate on their country.
Your father in law sounds like such a nice person. :)nI don’t get it either why Japan is asked again and again to apologise. Maybe they should print out a huge apology letter (few words, large font) and place it in a museum. No, wait, make that several copies and in a few museums.
i want to have a bigger than biggerrer heart too!!! 🙂 love the love! 🙂
Do what you are good at, don’t talk about politics if you can’t even get the facts right
Seriously? Like every country in the world, there are good and bad people. Japan also has their bad people, so you shouldn’t keep speaking like everyone there is a saint. Likewise, China also has their good people, so you shouldn’t keep speaking like everyone there is a grudge holding asshole.
In terms of Korean women forced into prostitution during World War II, the Japanese “apology” consisted of the statement: “Japanese troops acted in accordance with the Japanese Constitution.” Charming, is not it? The Yasukuni Shrine honor the memory of 1068 CLASS A war criminals, convicted by the Court of Tokyo. Japan did not pay war reparations Korea and avoids debate on the 731st branch
I do not know, maybe for people like you, endowed with a one-day memory (as Doris fish from “Finding Nemo”) prior to the event less than 100 years do not matter. Fortunately, not everyone is so short-sighted. Otherwise, would not have a culture of opportunity exist and survive.
I’m with u abt kids & future generations should not be involved in such sensitive issue that should have been a history to learn but not with hatred. I have been to China before, and I clearly understand why after so long, many Chinese, even those born after the war to now, still clearly have issues with the Japanese. During my stay, most of their tv channels contain anti Japanese movies, documentaries. Propaganda is something I’m surprised to see at this present times. Such vicious cycle..
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
don’t start a politic blog post if you got no knowledge in history at all. racist. japan has nothing related to you although you got a ‘japanese’ husband uhhh puhhleaseee DO YOU STILL REMEMBER WHICH COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM?
YOU WERE NOT BORN IN JAPAN AND JAPAN HAS NOTHING RELATED TO YOU. YOU ARE FROM MALAYSIA AND THAT MAKES YOU A MALAYSIAN DON’T ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE A JAPANESE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH CREAM YOU APPLY ON YOUR FACE YOU ARE ALWAYS A MALAYSIAN RINGO.
YOU WERE NOT BORN IN JAPAN AND JAPAN HAS NOTHING RELATED TO YOU. YOU ARE FROM MALAYSIA AND THAT MAKES YOU A MALAYSIAN DON’T ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE A JAPANESE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH CREAM YOU APPLY ON YOUR FACE YOU ARE ALWAYS A MALAYSIAN RINGO.
YOU WERE NOT BORN IN JAPAN AND JAPAN HAS NOTHING RELATED TO YOU. YOU ARE FROM MALAYSIA AND THAT MAKES YOU A MALAYSIAN DON’T ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE A JAPANESE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH CREAM YOU APPLY ON YOUR FACE YOU ARE ALWAYS A MALAYSIAN RINGO.
YOU WERE NOT BORN IN JAPAN AND JAPAN HAS NOTHING RELATED TO YOU. YOU ARE FROM MALAYSIA AND THAT MAKES YOU A MALAYSIAN DON’T ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE A JAPANESE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH CREAM YOU APPLY ON YOUR FACE YOU ARE ALWAYS A MALAYSIAN RINGO.
YOU WERE NOT BORN IN JAPAN AND JAPAN HAS NOTHING RELATED TO YOU. YOU ARE FROM MALAYSIA AND THAT MAKES YOU A MALAYSIAN DON’T ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE A JAPANESE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH CREAM YOU APPLY ON YOUR FACE YOU ARE ALWAYS A MALAYSIAN RINGO.
Now, I think it’s about time you shut down your blog, you don’t deserve so much readers you do ads in most of your posts just to earn money? What talent do you have there? Go get pregnant and raise up some kids get a life.
Cheesie, I totally agree with you. Japan had numerously apologized before. Several things that Korea angers me the most is how they would come to Japan to study and would stick their propaganda posters on campus, even as far as buying an advertisement spot in time squares about how they want an apology. Again as you and I had said, they did apologized.nDid you know that every women who put a claim with the asian woman’s fund, also received an apology letter from the prime minister?
Well said, Cheesie! <3
Though, I would say that you shouldn’t bother correcting these Internet trolls. Don’t understand why people hate you blogging about Japan. It’s your blog and you’re are the blog author. Don’t let these people drag you down to their level. :’3
Atomic bombing forced Japan to cease aggression but did not absolve Japan of the need to repent or pay retributions to her victims — and she did neither. Instead, with backing of the US, she is now in full blown revisionism mode, trying to assert territorial expansion again at the expense of her neighbors
Have you ever wondered why most of Asia distrust and hate Japan? Instead of encouraging the status quo, speak the truth so the past can be buried once and for all. Don’t just isolate your arguments to the present but understand the past to create the bridge of understanding
In 1995, the Japanese government set up the Asian Women’s Fund, which collected donations from private citizens to compensate the former slaves. Jan Ruff O’Hearne, a Dutch former sex slave, described this fund in U.S. Congressional testimony as “an insult to the ‘comfort women’” and she refused to accept it, as did Koreans, because it was solicited from private and industry donations, and not from the Japanese government.
Cheesie, I have been a loyal blog reader of yours for so long. I understand your passion and love for Japan. But look at things this way, you are Malaysian and you love Japanese culture while others from another country love korean culture. It’s the same thing. You just have to change your perspective a little.
Ringo u r brilliant. Applying tactics like this to garner attention for your business Foruchizu which is your latest blog post all about. But I understand you need to make a living so yeah…. I think it’s clear now why’d you have to put up such sensitive topic tho you were fully aware it’ll stir shit. It’s your blog,your business,you make a living out of it.
Cheesie, i share your passion and love for Japan. many a time, i, too, feel the frustration and anger that you have mentioned. i’m glad i read thru the 2 posts, i would say i’m still ‘rather bitter about it all’, but i’ll keep in mind to embrace myself with a bigger heart 🙂
Idk how the nuffnang x commenting system works but I appreciate that all kinds of comments are being displayed. Even tho some comments are against you, it still goes through. Unlike some other bloggers who just approves comments that are neutral,butt kissing comments and obviously comments related to the blog post.
I know you might not care or others might not care but you just lost a reader here…
@epitygxanwn @rorywong654 Typical Japanese apology: “We are sorry for all the harmful things we did in your country during most of the first half of the 20th century.”nnResponse: “So you are sorry for the massed forced sexual slavery during WWII?”nnJapan: “No, those women went into prostitution voluntarily.”nnResponse: “Okay, well are you sorry for forced conscription of war labor?”nnJapan: “It was within our right to draft people within our borders for our war efforts.”
Response: “Well, are you sorry for the killing of mass populations of civilians such as in Nanjing, right”nnJapan: “We have never established an figure that we believe to be accurate and believe much of the evidence to be fabricated.”nnResponse: “So what you are people sorry for specifically?”nnJapan: “The harmful things we did in your country in the unfortunate past.”
I read both posts Cheesie, and I think you are a tremendous person to speak about what you feel on these topics, and to then explore and understand why you feel that way. A lot of people will bash you about what you’ve said. Don’t listen to them. It’s obvious they haven’t grasped the message about having a bigger heart and are blinded by their hasty hate. A lot of cultures could learn a great deal from the Japanese and their peaceful philosophies. Smile and be proud. Thank you, and keep it up!
I agree, bringing up the history will really lead to endless debate. What’s past is past and it’s pointless to think about it and hate. I love ur posts, u really make very good points. Now’s not the time to feel hatred or angry anymore over the past.
Hey cheesie you probably fail on your history class, didn’t you? the fact that japanese was trying to occupy malysia during the war time, do u know about that? This post seriously makes you look so dumb. where is your patriotism? You are not Japanese, you are just a fakin malaysian. WHAT A FREAK!
You probably failed on your history class, didnt you? If u wanna know Japanese was tryin to invade Malaysia. this post seriously makes you look like a dumbass. Where is your patriotism? You are not Japanese, you are just a fakin Malysian. your such a complete ugly FREAK
Hello cheesie! Don’t delete your other post because it was so beautifully written! It is so honest and well-written. All these negative commenters sound so silly that I really think that they have no brain to mouth filter! That said, your posts are still amazing! (: <3
Every country involved with WWII is responsible for some kind of crime against humanity. Whether it’d be the Rape of Nanjing, Nazi Germany’s death camps, or the Allied nations resort to the bombing of many civilian cities in Germany and Japan. While Germany and Japan are considered the heartless inhumane villains of the war the America is hardly remembered for the millions of civilians they killed in air raids they purposely launched on cities. I’m Chinese American and I love my country but I
know that this generation needs to let old time resentment go
know that this generation needs to let old time resentment go
I enjoy reading your blog and learning more about Japan but I think this definitely bears repeating. You’re mixing pop culture and politics; don’t. Even the best writers who specialize in these kinds of editorials get slammed and they have studied these subjects more in depth and with more nuance than you have (even bearing in mind that you have lived/studied in Japan, your knowledge base is different from theirs). Your writing is good; use this as a learning experience on writing on controvers
it’s funnier so read how many idiots they are in the comment section than the post it self
disrespect. pls read the facts before writing such a one-sided post. moreover, u r a malaysian.
yeah, go on generalising the experiences and conduct of whole countries and populations while simultaneously using individual experiences to prove your point. in fact, i don’t even understand why you are lumping history and political agenda of the different countries to justify your pop culture disdain. wtf are you pissed at people liking kpop more or are you pissed at other countries being pissed at japan? also, who are you even, to tell people which is the superior culture?
i hope you realise you are being incredibly racist and xenophobic and ignorant. also, regarding your last point of you learning to ~have a bigger heart~ lol so what, is that a paraphrase of “i think korea and china are still shit but i’m going to learn to ignore them and forgive them for their insipid behaviour” if that’s the case, no thanks you’re still being a terrible person.
Maybe the reason why those apologies have been deemed “insincere” is because Japanese govt. officials continue to visit war memorials like Yasukuni shrine which house Japanese war criminals; issuing nonofficial apologies in light of these actions seem somewhat mocking. And if you continued to “properly” “read the blog post” you linked to, you would have read that the Japanese haven’t even issued an apology according to how China deems appropriate. And if Japan was as serious about making amends
you claim, then it shouldn’t be that big of an issue to make a formal apology. While I do concede that some older generations do maintain begrudging views against the Japanese, you can’t generalize that the entirety of the Japanese are “taught not to hate” because that’s not true.
I appreciate the fact that you can empathize with those who were affected by the war on both parties. I takes balls to post something this controversial and I agree with most of the ideas. However, this post sprung from a topic about lack of J nationalism… while I believe that anyone is entitled to what they support and believe in, I find it hypocritical that you complain about fellow Japanese not having nationalism when you don’t have nationalism for Malaysia.
Come on people! Give Cheesie and the other readers a break! What is there to argue about? She was telling HER point of view, what she feels, and how she HOPES everyone will be a better person with bigger heart! What is wrong with that? Open up your mind!!
you’re dumb. wikipedia isn’t a valid source. why don’t you get some real information on a better website.
pft. okay so you don’t know what happened 70+ years ago either so don’t come crying to your readers. you don’t know shit about korea as well so keep your stupid mouth shut.
you’re a dumbass as well. of course dumbass girls doing dumbass things together. you don’t even know what you’re talking about either so keep your mouth shut as well. if we didn’t have anything going on in our brains would we even be able to refute this blogger’s points? getcho mind straight
cheesie care to explain why japan took dokdo island away from korea it was never theirs. even geographically that island is closer to sk than it is to japan. in addition, the people who guard the island are all KOREANS and they were ALWAYS the ones who looked over the island. there are no japanese security there.nnyou’re just pissed that south korea’s at the top with kpop and electronics. you have too much pride in japan & since you have the heart of the japanese you learned to hate.
lol cheesie you’re cute trying to say that we’re saying the same shit you said in your previous post. but like i said, if you really thought deep into it and started to recognize your pettiness BEFORE you started writing the post, you wouldn’t have posted such a smitten entry. man you can’t debate for shit. and it seems that you looked up your information on wikipedia (an invalid source) to counterargue people’s valid statements. unaccepted. fan turned to anti-fan. will continue to hate you. <3
forgiveness does not mean forgetting, but having the courage to take back life and move on. nnas my life is connected with all three countries, i agree with your posts and your call for everyone to be allies, not enemies. unity can make asia a bigger, stronger power in the world while resentment only leads to downfall. thank you for your insight, cheesie. btw, i love nagasaki too~ 🙂
I don’t know how many times they have attempted to make an apology but the fact that they are not insincere boils down to 1. the visits (and even worship) to Yasukuni Shrine (it doesn’t matter if youths apologise ON BEHALF) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Yasukuni_Shrine#Politicians.27_visits) and 2. the fact that they are writing Jap textbooks in such a way that they did nothing wrong in the past. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_history_textbook_controversies)
man cheesie, as a korean reader who cried for your love for japan because it was so beautiful, i have to say i’m quite disappointed with the way you put your words even after the “clarification”. you sound angry and like a child. don’t look up your information on wikipedia if you need to look up information because it just makes you sound stupid. you don’t know shit about koreans. my family is well respected and we never talk shit about japan. it’s ancient rivalry. i hope you get over it soon.
you last paragraph states that japan is taught not to hate. but then you go on a little tangent that china and korea should not be taught to hate as well. if that’s the case, why won’t educational textbooks in japan include the horrors of the past? it’s history, and if the japanese are taught not to hate, then they would surely include the many events during imperialist japan to let students know that this is what happened and it should not happen again.
china/korea are deeply wounded and it’s going to take more than 70 damn years to forget about the past. the people who survived during the bombings in japan, innocent women being taken for prostitution for japan- as nationalists i don’t see why people shouldn’t be mad especially when they don’t think the apologies are from the heart. and money doesn’t solve everything.
not only that, do you even know the history of persia and israel? they’ve been fighting each other for centuries and centuries and they still hate each other. you think israel is going to forget everything that everyone has done to them? no. never. and neither will china or korea.
Hi Cheesie! Read your previous entry and this one. Even tho it’s quite bias/extreme, somehow I felt relieved ‘coz there is still a blogger/fashion icon in our country still remain and have a big heart towards Japan. I’ve started listening to Japanese music when i was 12, all these years with no one to share my love towards J music except for my sis. Now i’m 22 and it never changed, am still loving it even tho everyone around me are into K. Thank you for letting us know that we are not alone 🙂
It’s hypocritical of you to accuse other countries of nationalism when you have taken on such a biased perspective. Judging from your last post, this false crusade for global reconciliation seems only to be an effort to paint the source of kpop (which you so abhor), Korea (and by default China), in a bad light.
Yes, the three countries are badly in need of fixing relations. Yet, I don’t see how the increased accessibility and popularity of k-culture can be considered anything bad. Rather, by opening up communications and sharing culture and music, these countries will begin to form better relations and communication. As a blogger who deals mostly with fashion and travel, it’d be best to steer away from making controversial and uninformed political posts like above. n
Dear Cheesie, I think I love Japan almost as much as u do and you’ve expressed everything that I and perhaps many other people have wanted to say in such sincere words. This blog post touched my heart and also made me understand the Japanese culture much more- and another thing, you’re so lucky to have such a wonderful danna! <3
im korean and i wasnt taught to hate.. :/. there are good and bad people in every country, i just wish everyone would stop putting people in the same categories. we’re all individuals.. i am not my country. i am myself.
Well, I do love Japan but at same time i have to disagree with you regarding the apologies. I read the links and i don’t think it’s unreasonable for a more appropriate apology. I went to Nanjing and it was just heartbreaking. It really pierced my heart. China doesn’t want just apologies, she wants acknowledge of what happened. Even tough some japanese acknowledge what happened, there are some who don’t.nn
part 2.nnLook for the apology and denial part : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_MassacrennWhile i don’t feel retreated towards Japan, like the old generation we shouldn’t forget. You say a lot of chinese have ill feelings, but when i was there i didn’t see this. Lot of chinese girl look up to japanese girls and their fashion. I met a lot of super nice japanese people and that is the true. There is no meaning to keep dragging the past. But the facts doesn’t change what happened.
part 3nnWhile i was visiting the museums in Nanjing one fact that took my interest was the fact, an old soldier called Azuma ( don’t remeber very well ) wrote about the war in Japan revealing what happened and was sued, and lost in court. He was slashed but receive a lot of support from the chinese community. I don’t think it’s about being japanese and chinese but sincerely being sincere. Just being in the museum was too heavy too me, imagine if i really was there.
part 5nOn June 19, 2007, a group of around 100 Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) lawmakers again denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication, arguing that there was no evidence to prove the allegations of mass killings by Japanese soldiers. They accused Beijing of using the alleged incident as a “political advertisement”.nOn February 20, 2012, Takashi Kawamura, mayor of Nagoya, told a visiting delegation from Nanjing that the massacre “probably never happened”. Two days later he defen … etc .
part 6nSo yeah, China is reasonable for asking a sincere apology. nAbout the aid. Japan is VERY present in China, so i don’t think it’s just a give, give and give relationship.nBecause of daoyu island, things got serious and old feeling come back but there is a lot of reasonable chinese people. I met a lot of other internacionals students, and most of them were japanese and korean and they got along just fine. From what i saw they weren’t hated or anything.
part 7nnI as a brazilian chinese, have a huge love for Japan, my dream is to live there. But i do acknowledge that there is some denial in Japan’s part. I have that in mind but i do not blame the Japan of this present. It happened a long time and people shouldn’t get stuck in the past. I don’t know if managed to express myself well. I think what i said was very confusing.
part 8nnps. China does have some bitter feelings but times are changing and lot of youngster doesn’t have hate. BUt the reamaing old generation still have. Not saying china is all wonders with Japan, but not the a horrible place for japanese.
I’m Korean and reading your last post was upsetting to me, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to hate you or stop reading your blog. I’m sure there are some Japanese who dislike Koreans, but there are probably also Koreans and Chinese who love Japan, just like I do. I think it’s good that cultures do branch out and get along with other cultures rather than being closed off. It’s good to have pride in your culture, but it’s also good to respect others as well. Sorry, hope I didn’t upset you.
Hi Cheesie -nnI just wanted to say, I love Japan and Japanese culture. It’s a really interesting society and I want to visit the place more often definitely. My Japanese friends are also some of my best friends.nnI do think however that you are on the wrong side of the argument when it comes to the war issue. The fact of the matter is Japan have not fully acknowledged their war crime atrocities in the same way that Germany has with its Nazi past.nn
Germany not only executed its war crime leaders and overthrew the government, up till today its memorials and museums tell the sad story of its Nazi history – and fully acknowledging the sad fact of German history. nnThe situation in Japan is very different. There they try to portray themselves as not fully complicit and ‘not so bad’. There has been far less acceptance of Japanese nationalism – even the Emperor who started the war remained in a privilleged position. Contrast that to Hitler.
Japanese textbooks in no way inculcate the same scale of this atrocity in the same way that German textbooks do with their Nazi past.nnUnless and until the Japanese educate their young, and fully encourage open discussion of the latent racism inherent within Japanese society (many believing for example that Koreans are inferior) the crimes will forever remain with them. nnOne first step – stop revering their war dead as war heroes and like Germany start thinking of them as war criminals.
I do not believe Japan should be given credit for paying war reparations. That is something that is negotiated as part of the peace treaty. This money has to be repaid for the damage caused. Its not like for example, Malaysia giving development funds to East Timor. No damage was done by Malaysia in East Timor so that act is a complete altriuism. nnJapan is not ‘giving’ money. It is paying money back for damages caused.
I don’t understand how some people can hate all Japanese people. I understand if they hate the actual soldiers who committed those heinous crimes, or the crazy right-winged politicians, but hating the generations who were not involved in the war is sad. Why should children and babies have to be hated for just being Japanese? Because their great great great grandfather was a war criminal? nWhat a scary place it would be if everyone was taught to hate somebody because of what their ancestors did.
I don’t understand how some people can hate all Japanese people. I understand if they hate the actual soldiers who committed those heinous crimes, or the crazy right-winged politicians, but hating the generations who were not involved in the war is sad. Why should children and babies have to be hated for just being Japanese? Because their great great great grandfather was a war criminal? nWhat a scary place it would be if everyone was taught to hate somebody because of what their ancestors did.
I understand that it hurts people that their relatives were raped/tortured/killed but what will holding a grudge and hating do? Will it make those relatives pain go away? No. What we have to learn is that what was in the past is in the past. nWe can never change it, but we can always learn from it. Holding on to a 70 year old grudge will only fill your soul with sickness. If only those people could see how nice it is to live in peace and hold no hate.
I understand that it hurts people that their relatives were raped/tortured/killed but what will holding a grudge and hating do? Will it make those relatives pain go away? No. What we have to learn is that what was in the past is in the past. nWe can never change it, but we can always learn from it. Holding on to a 70 year old grudge will only fill your soul with sickness. If only those people could see how nice it is to live in peace and hold no hate.
hi cheesie, i love this post! very well taught-out and i could feel your sincerity 🙂 i think we all need a bigger heart, and people should learn to understand each other better instead of arguing all the time. thank you for sharing <3
Hi cheesie, I was a fan of your blog posts, but I am disappointed by your anti-Korean ones. I am full korean, and my great-grandmother, who is still alive, actually survived the japanese occupation. Your argument that “no one here was involved with what happened in the past” is very much false, and your claims are actually very insensitive towards my family. I know you are not a malicious person, but please do not make statements about other country’s histories without knowledge.
THANK YOU <3<3
If your uncles killed rivals to wrest food they would not share with you, and went too far out of fear of revenge, then the rivals proved stronger, would you spit on your uncles’ graves? Or would you honor their sacrifice? Japan is walking the walk – learn to share, not to rule by fear and not to overkill with nukes thus becoming an economic power.
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